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Computer generated art: is it considered real art?
I do not consider myself to be an artist because I have never exhibited any art work, never sold or tried to sell any work. I create art for my own enjoyment. I do know what I like and my taste in art crosses into many fields. One of those fields lies in the mathematical computation abilities of computers. The computer creates the work based upon a set of variables chosen by the operator. I would greatly appreciate any comments on the following samples. The first is a type of line drawing done with great precision using various colors. The second is a transparent 3D shape and the third is a solid construction. If you do not consider this to be "art" please say so and tell me why. For those interested in this work I use a free software program called Chaoscope which can be downloaded at:
http://www.btinternet.com/~ndesprez/download.htm
http://www.btinternet.com/~ndesprez/download.htm
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Polynominal Light-30.bmp, 6.2 MB -
Untitled 25.bmp, 2.3 MB
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Untitled 5.bmp, 2.3 MB
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Permalink Reply by Germán Britch on -
Nelson: doesn't matter which is the intimal mechanism that make the things works, most important is the question, is working or not?.I think, there´s no ART like a result. Art is a process which involve many platforms an devices...natural, or artificial, 2D, 3D, o why not 4D.In this process are you taking decisions.A lot of People think ART is not exist, exist only artists.
Is there any difference between a pen or a mouse, a paper or a screen? absolutely not!!Let me give you an advice, exhibite your works, exhibite yourself, doesn't matter if you sold works.
A Core is, if you are considered to yourself like an artist, the others sight, complete the round and maybe..... born a work called artisti cwork.
I Use all the materials and techniques to do my works.
Sorry about my english.
Best wishes
PD: would be better if you work in JPG file format, is like a universal format.
Works 25 and 5 are really beautiful!!
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Permalink Reply by Nelson Abdullah on -
My greatest fear in trying to sell my art is for someone to say if the computer created it then you didn't. The software program is called Chaos and it is available free on the Internet. It works best with a high speed processor and a lot of memory since it performs over 30 million computations to create the images.
I appreciate your comments and that you thought the images were beautiful. That is my exact same feeling since the colors are so vivid. Here are three more for you. I converted them to JPG format. - Attachments
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Untitled 4.jpg, 534 KB -
Lorenz Plasma 29.jpg, 501 KB
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Lorenz84 Plasma-4.jpg, 1.4 MB
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Permalink Reply by Germán Britch on
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Hi Nelson.!
Let's see the problem in this way.Yet i haven't seen no one computer that has the decision to turn on, access to Chaos program, and put any variables to make a work....and then show to you asking your opinion.
The computer is the tool, like you, your hand, your eyes.
I think fear is just your!!
Another detail: your works are signed with your name, Don't tell you something interesting?
These works are all beautiful.
Do you make Draws By free hand, on paper i mean?who did it ,you or your hand?
Do you write poetry on your pc?Who did it?you or the machine?
By the way, the first step to be considered artist is being an artist.
Pd: The convert to JPG works Optimal
Best wishes
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Permalink Reply by Germán Britch on
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Who did it?, is anlogical or digital?
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dibujo brote.jpg, 481 KB
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Permalink Reply by Germán Britch on
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http://www.leedor.com/imagenes/notas/artesp/585/_mac2.jpg
http://www.leedor.com/imagenes/notas/artesp/585/_ritmos.jpg
These works belong to Eduardo Mac Entyre an Argeninian Artist.He doesn't use computers.
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Permalink Reply by Nelson Abdullah on
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German, (sorry about the spelling, my keyboard has no special "a").
I sign my name because I take some pride in participating in the creation of my work. I have no other function but to selection several parameters for the software to build from. I do decide which finished work I like and discard all the others. I have dozens more that I kept and many dozens I did not.
My other software program, Corel Draw Graphics Suite has more things in it that can be compared to conventional art. It uses brush shapes and color blending and lots more.
I am not into poetry.
Again, thanks for the compliment.
Regards,
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Permalink Reply by Nelson Abdullah on
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These two drawings came through very small but they seem to be similar to what my Chaos program does. I would like to see larger versions. They look very interesting.
Regards,
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Permalink Reply by Nelson Abdullah on
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Another comparison just occurred to me. An artist who works with liquid paints and tosses them on a canvas one color at a time. This artist has about as much control over the final result of his creation as I do setting variables in my software. I mean no offense to any such artists who do this work. I have seen several paintings like this that I really like.
Regards,
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Permalink Reply by Germán Britch on
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Im this Page, below, see Eduardo Mac Entyre
Best wishes
http://images.google.com.ar/imgres?imgurl=http://www.pettoruti.com/...
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Permalink Reply by Germán Britch on
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Nelson: you must upload your works in the main page, let the people talk.The final judgement is subjetiv, and not belong to you.
Best wishes
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Permalink Reply by Deirdre A. Fox on -
Hi, Nelson. I looked at the images on your profile page since it was taking too long for your attachments to load. Some of them are quite beautiful. I have a fondness for mathematical curves and forms. There's nothing wrong with using the computer, or automatic processes based on inputs, to generate your art. There's a history of systems in art. One thing I would consider is how the resolved work matures as you continue your work so it does not all start to blur together and lose impact. I like that it's not all symmetrical ... it allow the work to have more life. Personnally, I'd suggest moving away from the black background and psychedelic colors as I think that tends to limit the work (of course, that's a matter of taste ... ) Best. - Dee
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Permalink Reply by epmoon on -
Nelson, I have worked with computers for a long time ie: programming, music creation etc, I am also an artist and a musician.
I would not consider a programmer an artist...but I would consider what you do...art. The difference is that a programmer usually has a set goal in mind, say writing a database for a business application. From there, he uses a specific set of instructions and enters these in the most logical and concise matter into the computer but only after the project/goal has been laid out.. He simply tells the computer what to do, and any good programmer will come up with the same concise code, without room for creativity.
For you to abstractly create/choose the variables within your project, and create a new entity from it, is art. For someone to tell you to recreate it based on their pre-selected form, like a programmers task, would not be considered art... I hope I make sense.
Thank you for posting this discussion, I find this topic very fascinating.
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